Becoming Unstoppable: A Journey Of Open Mindset, Pain, And Ambitious Goals With Joey Drolshagen
Tom Dardick and business coach Joey Drolshagen dive into personal growth and development. Their conversation centers on the importance of having an open mindset and setting ambitious goals to avoid "playing small." Joey shares his personal journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship, highlighting the importance of challenging subconscious beliefs and taking unconventional steps. Additionally, they explore the impact of fear and pain on decision-making and motivation, with a focus on the importance of vision in driving transformation.
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Becoming Unstoppable: A Journey Of Open Mindset, Pain, And Ambitious Goals With Joey Drolshagen
It’s my great pleasure to welcome Joey Drolshagen to the show. He’s been named one of the top coaches in America over the past several years by NYC Journal and a few other publications. As you get to know him a little bit like I have, you'll see why. He brings great energy and passion for helping people to the table. I've found our conversation to be energizing and illuminating, especially as it relates to us developing and moving forward. With no further ado, let's welcome Joey to the show.
The thing that attracted me to talk to you, Joey, is the name of your company, It’s Freakin Go Time. That tells me a ton right there. We talk about branding.
The reason that worked out like that, Tom, is I started doing these works at 22 years old to figure out my own life. Back in the day, if something came easy to me, I felt like I didn't earn it or deserve it because it happened with ease. I took all that time, built that career in Corporate America, and did all those things. I knew I needed to do those to be able to serve the way I do now.
I didn't want to do it through that whole process. I continued studying this pathway. To finally come out a decade ago and be doing this took a long time. It's fricking go time. That's how I came up with the name. It's time to quit playing small and wanting, but take actions that lead opposite from where I want and start stepping into.
When we use a word like playing small, which we use a lot in the development world, what we mean is short shrifting yourself from your potential. Is that what it is?
I could not have said that better, Tom.
No matter who we are, we are not at 100. Even the people that are at the top are not at 100. That means that we have to give ourselves a little bit of grace, saying, “You're not where you could be. Be that as it may. Where do you want to be? Let's go from here.” There are a lot of times when we have to balance two seemingly contradictory notions.
You give yourself grace and acceptance. You’re like, “I'm good the way I am.” You're not good the way you are because the whole point of life is to grow, develop, learn, do something you haven't done before, help somebody else who needs some help, get out of the chair, and do and use it or lose it. The question that we both face as a full-time job with a career calling is, what gets in the way? What stops us? Why am I not where I want to be? What is that gap?
I've got a model here that is helping people see that part of themselves that is mysterious. If you want to get in shape or healthier, it's not an intellectual thing as to what I have to do. This is known stuff. For those that are already off of their resolutions to be at the gym every day in the early part of the year, what gives? What's the problem? That's what the eye of power is about.
It sounds to me like we're birds of a feather when we talk about It's Freaking Go Time and the subconscious mindset training that you bring to the table. I want to get into that. My question through all of that, Joey, is, what are the things that you see? If you had that magic wand that you could wave for people that would get them more towards that gap and not playing small, what would that be?
The number one thing, Tom, would be an open mindset. All of us spend our time based on what we know and what we've experienced. I can't tell you how many people I talk to as I'm explaining the principles of SMT, mindset, or subconscious mindset. They're like, “I know.” As long as we know, we cannot go any further. We're stuck there.
We all know things. If you're over two years old, you know things. Sometimes, when we get into our teens, we know everything about everything. We get into our twenties, and we realize, “Maybe I didn't.” It's not about what we know if we're not living the life we want to live and having the impact that we wanna have, and we feel it's our purpose. Whatever area of life it is, if we don't have the relationship that we truly desire to have, the finances, and the freedom of time, if we're not hitting those, there's something we don't know what's going on causing that.
Instead of I know, I'm being stuck there, what I tell people, an open mindset to me means what can I add to what I already know? What am I missing? I work with people in recovery programs. Many people recycle there. They get help and go back out, and they get help. What I always tell them when I'm talking with somebody like that is don't look at what you know and what you relate to. Look for what you missed your other times around.
When you figure those things out, you won't ever have to use them again. When you figure those things out, you can grow your business and scale it beyond belief. When you figure those things out, you can have and experience that love relationship. You can have that freedom of time and start fulfilling those items on your bucket list. As long as you know you're holding yourself short, that would be the number one thing.
The other thing that I would say that goes along with that is when I work with clients, and I used to say this. I don't say it anymore, and I'll tell you why. I used to say, “If you want to get unrealistic results in your life.” Anybody, I talk to Tom when I ask them, and I get into the guts of what their vision is. What is it they truly desire to experience in life? It's things that aren't realistic.
I'm a kid who grew up in a struggling blue-collar family in Detroit, Michigan. The fact that I would go into a vice president of sales, helping millions of dollars in corporations go from bankruptcy to profitability or helping clients go from $7.5 million to $23 million in a year in their business growth. The fact that I'm doing this is unrealistic based on that kid who grew up in that struggling family. It's when we step outside. The client went from $7.5 million to $23 million in twelve calendar months and has been sustaining that upward level for several years, which was unrealistic for them.
I'll give you a good example. I worked with a guy who had a wholesale company. I do a lot of business. It's all personal transformation. He has a wholesale company out of Ohio. When I met him, he was doing about $34,000 a month. He had been in business for several years. He was doing $34,000 a month, and all he wanted to get to was $50,000 a month because, at $50,000 a month, he could cover everything and start nickel and diming down that line of credit that he had built up using it for the gap between the two.
When I talked to him about his vision, getting him to $75,000 a month was ridiculous. It ended up over time, over about a month, getting him to $150,000. That was at the end of the year when we worked together several years ago. I set the vision for January, February, and March because those were the slowest months of his business. It's after the holidays. In January, February, and March, he did over $250,000 each of those months. That was unrealistic. He wouldn't even believe that it was possible that I got him to $150,000, and he did that.
He is building the whole thing and everything else. He came back to me in November and said, “I'm struggling.” I go, why? What's going on? He goes, “I'm trying to get to $500,000, and I can't.” He's moving into that. The human condition is we achieve these visions if we allow ourselves to believe them. What we do is look at our current situation, our situations, and our past experiences. People will live off of experiences that other people told them that they never even experienced firsthand. It's part of their belief in that subconscious.
We achieve our visions if we allow ourselves to believe in them.
What they do is figure out what they want based on what they see around them right now or those experiences. That's why he couldn't get beyond $50,000 in his belief that it was possible. It was unrealistic. When we get to our heart level, we have unrealistic visions of what we want. We want to live by taking realistic actions. What happens is we try to strive for that realistic one. We put effort into it. We follow that old programming that you hear in many coaching programs and such that if you want something, you have to put in massive action and exhaustive effort. You have to trade off things in life.
There pulls a lot of the excitement out of what we want. By the time you do it and somebody takes action, and it doesn't lead to $1 million overnight, they get discouraged. With that discouragement, they end up not only relaxing and living off of mediocre scraps of what they truly desire out of life, but they take it as something of matter with them why they can't achieve that higher level of things.
In doing all of that, to round it up, all of that stuff leads to more people will live with, “That's impossible.” If I tell somebody that somebody went from $7.5 million to $23 million within a twelve calendar month, they'll tell me it's BS. I can put them on the phone to talk to that person and explain it. They still will not believe it. They'll think there's a trick to it, and it's only based on that subconscious conditioning.
You threw a whole lot of clay on the table there, Joey.
Sorry about that.
That's what we're here for. I’m loving every second of it. The thing that occurs to me is between the open mindset and the relationship between our unrealistic vision and our realistic aspect of what we're able to do and all of that together. The word that pops out to me is making sure that we need humility. Humility in the sense of what we do understand. That also relates to our perspective.
What I was thinking is the older I get, the more I realize I need to be less decorative in conversations and more inquisitive. In other words, I need to be more in the question and less sharing because the stereotypical thing is that the more you learn, the more you've been through the wringer, and people are going to come to you because you're wise and veteran. You can share all the knowledge.
I do like to do that. I have a show. I try to share things I've figured out, but I'm learning that I'm way better off asking questions. This interview format that I've gotten new for the first 70-plus episodes of my show was me talking. It's these kinds of things more often where I get to ask questions. I can see the benefit clearly because I'm not sitting here trying to compare what my experience is or making sure people are hearing what I said. I'm trying to understand you. I'm learning, growing, and seeing things a different way, and hardly anything's new. The subtleties give you clarity that you don't have.
When you talk about people, say, “ I know.” What they're discounting is the fact that you have a picture, but your picture is not the thing. Your picture is a picture. When you had the habit of saying, “No, I'm good with my picture, thank you.” That's one of the ways we cut ourselves off to power because we're saying, “I've got four cards now in my hand. I'm playing Texas Hold ‘Em. I don't need a fifth. I'm good. I got two. It's got to be a draw. It can't be Texas Hold ‘Em. I got four. I don't need a fifth.” We don't know we're doing it. What do you think that is? Let's say they've hired you to coach them. You're telling them something. They're going, “I know.” What do you think they're about there when they're doing it? What's in their mind?
Everything that I do relates back to subconscious mindset conditioning. We are conditioned. We go through school. Even as a younger child, you'll be 3 or 4 years old, and you'll do something. Parents have scolded you. Why'd you do that? I don't know. You have to know why you did that. We go to school, and you have to know that 2+2+4. You have to know the presidents. We build a culture of people whom we have to know. If you look at our culture in the United States, it's much more based on that, and you have to know the answers.
A lot of the stuff I grew up with and experienced in coaching was you have to figure it out. If you want to have success in life, you have to figure out what to do and all the hows and put everything together. You look at Corporate America. There is more conditioning that I've experienced for many years. It took me forever to break that. When you look at that in sales, you do your 90-day, 1-month, 1-year, 3-year, 5-year, and 10-year projections. You put all these things together. You have to come up with action plans in case you run into something and don't hear what you're going to do. You have to know every nook and cranny of that. Most people who follow that will never achieve the heights that they could.
If you want to have success in life, you have to figure out what to do.
When we get into alignment, and this is everything I work with, we get into a dynamic vision. We get into alignment with that vision. We let the how to show us rather than us taking ownership, power, and control. When we do that, we go right up here and live from our logical strategic mind that's only as big as the distance between my two ears. That's as much as I can ever get out of that.
When I open up to all that is, I refer to it as God in my life. Whatever it is, we get into it. Every single living, breathing person has experienced coincidences where something comes out of the blue and happens, and they didn't do it. All of a sudden, it turns into this great outcome based on what happened there. We call that often. By reprogramming our subconscious and getting into alignment, we can experience coincidence after coincidence. It's almost as if designed. That's when life starts getting easier.
One of the things I'll ask business owners and realtors that I work with right out of the shoot when I'm doing a workshop is, do you believe that you can quadruple your business and at the same time have more freedom to do what you want to do in life? Everybody in that room will say, “No.” I'll go through the process of the presentation and the SMT method, why people think that way, how to open that up in the comfort zone, and all the other details that build up into that. In the end, I'll say, “Do you still believe it's impossible?” Some of those people will say, “Not after hearing that.”
We have our comfort zone. Unrealistic results are outside of our comfort zone. It has to be because otherwise, we'd already be experiencing it. Anything that we desire that we haven't is outside of our comfort zone. Our subconscious programming will lay out that pathway for the actions that the subconscious is what triggers the brainwaves to the actions we take or don't take.
As we're stepping into that and stepping outside of our comfort zone, it is uncomfortable and uncommon. We go back to our conditioning on the actions that we determined that we are going to take to bring about what we want to experience. We do so with conditioning that's based on common actions that we've taken.
It's impossible to get to uncommon results without taking uncommon actions. It's impossible to get unrealistic results without stepping outside of our comfort zone. Most people going in alone won't ever achieve the same level. The reason I say that is because I work with a coach even now. The reason I do that is they help me run in to see where my subconscious is keeping me in that common zone. I can do something about that, shift that, and get back into that place.
A couple of years ago, I took up hang gliding, and they took seven runs off of a 2,000-foot mountaintop strapped to a hang glider. The only reason I did that is because it scared the heck out of me. The main reason I did it, Tom, is because I've always wanted to experience soaring like an eagle. I went and got my pilot's license in my twenties and that in their thirties. That didn't get it.
This brings about that experience. I feel like I'm soaring. With that first run off of that mountaintop, everything inside of me was saying, “Don't do it.” It was getting louder. I could feel my heartbeat in my throat, but the moment my feet left the ground, it all went away, and it was soaring. It feels beautiful and light where I'm supposed to be.
In the Eye of Power model, what you were pointing to there is what I call the pain quadrant. What I mean by that is it's our relationship with pain that determines how we are going to exert ourselves and what actions we're willing to take on our own behalf. You gave an example where you had fear. Your feet didn't want to leave the ground. We've never done something before. It feels uncomfortable. We were afraid of looking silly.
One answer to the question I was asking earlier about what gets in the way might be that when I say I know and when you're trying to tell me something, I don't want to look like I don't already know that because I don't want to look foolish. I have this fear of seeming less than. What is fear? It's there for a reason. Without it, we're screwed.
Everything that happens to us has a rationale. Nothing is accidental, and every aspect of ourselves is well thought out. It wouldn't persist if it wasn't useful, but having said that, if it masters us versus it's a tyrannical master versus a wonderful servant, it's our relationship with that. You had the ability to leave the ground, take that leap of faith, let the air fill the wings, and put yourself in that transformative state.
You find out the fear was there for a reason. If you jumped off that cliff without the hang glide, you're screwed, or something goes wrong. There are things to be afraid of. The fear is not there for nothing, but you can get past it because you say, “There's a risk. When I get up out of my chair, I can fall and hit my head.” What's that risk relative to everything else? You're in the driver's seat and making choices that give you your agency.
There's a lot of acronyms for fear. My favorite one is false evidence that appears real. We don't even experience it, but we're afraid to take action because of it. That's part of the whole thing. If I had to answer in a one-word answer, the question you had asked me prior was as far as what stops people. You were talking about pain, which I love discussing because pain is a great motivator. Pain will push us to take action. If we lose a job, we're afraid of losing our house. This and that will push us to go out and get another job. We didn't like where we were working anyway. We wouldn't have changed that until it was brought up by Sue Payne.
I've seen people who were pushed into retirement from companies as they got close to bankruptcy. They start taking some of the people, moving them, and retiring them. That scared him out of his mind. Several weeks later, I talked to them and said, “Every day is like a Saturday.” What happened is they got pushed into that position and started seeing how that could work out.
Pain is a great motivator. People living in addiction, misery, bad marriages, and struggling financially, that pain can motivate them to move forward. In doing things the right way or one of the ways of doing things, you can have a vision that will pull you into what you desire rather than being pushed by pain. It's a lot easier, more comfortable, more enjoyable, and more exciting way to live life.
Pain is a great motivator.
Ken Wilber put out the concept of spiral dynamics. I use that all the time. I don't know if it comes up in your conversations. The basic idea of spiral dynamics is that things tend to roll out in levels, and progress is not straight up. It tends to go both up and down. To keep on it, you can notice that you're making constant progress. You have to sort out the issues at one level before you're going to be able to stay at the higher level. I use an example of if I'm not showing up for work reliably, I'm not going to worry too much about my phone manners. You have to get number one before number two's going to matter.
The idea is that level one is pain aversion to pain. That's the universal. I'm not going to tolerate my hand getting hurt unless there's something way wrong. That's more of a lower-level response. What you were pointing to is, it seems to me, a more evolved learner. If I learn enough, I have enough of a view of the future view and what's possible to be able to have that foothold to be motivated by the potential carrot and not the stick.
Enough pain will motivate us into a vision. When people come to me, they don't come because their business is on top. They want to be a $100 million organization, and they're a $200,000 organization. They don't come to me because they're excited that their life is like that. They come to me because they've tried everything they can do. They're wondering if they're even as real. They come to me a lot. I don't even know if I should stay in real estate. I love real estate, but I can't live like this. I don't get a retirement. I'm working 90 hours a week, whether business is coming in strong enforcement or there's no business. I'm trying to get at stuff.
That pain of living that way is what brings most people to me. I understand what you're saying about being on another level. It depends on how you look at it, but that vision is a door opener to what we truly want. Our pain can push us into that. I talked about being open-minded. Our pain can push us to be open-minded. When I'm talking to somebody who's got an addiction problem, and they go from the point of that pain of being in the addiction and living that way, we'll push them to say, “I don't know what to do.”
Our vision opens the door to what we truly want. Our pain can push us into that.
When somebody comes to me, Tom, and they say, “Here's all the things I've tried. None of them worked. I don't know what to do.” That's an open mind right there. That means that pain has led them to a level of discomfort enough that they get through that at least enough to develop, come up, and determine that I can help them to develop that dynamic vision. From there, we start stepping into the vision, and the subconscious conditioning is going to pop.
It has to pop up, whether it's fear, uncomfortableness, or experiences of the past where they grew up. It has to come up and bump up against it. We can identify it, shift it, and start moving forward, allowing for more expansiveness to happen in our lives. It can happen relatively quickly. Pain for a long time was my motivator for what I do now.
That's an inspirational thought because everybody, to some degree, has some pain. It's a rare time in our lives when we can't point to anything that's not bothering us in some way, fashion, or form. What I take from what you shared there, Joey, is that we can lean into that, become more open, and unfold a part of our lives that would otherwise have remained closed.
What's cool about that is it doesn't have to get to the level of the pain we feel. We can take care of it when it shows up as discontent. This is the third year in a row my business has been at $500,000. I would like to see it at a $10 million business. That discontent can be that driver. It doesn't have to be the level of pain where it's life-threatening for us to do something about it.
A favorite quote of mine is, “Our life conditions are precise functions of what we're willing to tolerate.”
I remember talking to somebody, and they were talking to me. They said, “I hope that you get angry. At the first sign of discontent, you stop living with it as long as you do.” Part of my comfort zone used to be being comfortable with discontent. If things were good, I felt uncomfortable. When I got into sales, it was a half chance back in corporate days. I said, “I don't care what I do, but I never want to do sales.” I ended up in sales. I would get accolades in front of the whole organization. I would feel uncomfortable doing that. I almost didn't want to get the purchase orders for those because I was afraid of that happening. It's that fear of success, which is the fear of being who we truly are.
Maryanne Williamson has a quote that I love, and I never say it the way she does, but she says, “Being powerless isn't our real fear. Our real fear is how powerful we are.” That taps into all of this stuff. The other thing I'd like to bring up is that we hear many things in books, programs, self-help things, podcasts, and all these things about people telling us what we have to do. I followed a lot of those things for a long time. A lot of it created more confusion for me. It wasn't until I started working with people.
How I've modeled my coaching business after is I don't know what's best for you, but I know how to help you figure that out and find that. Regardless of who says what or anything else, the problem with that is that coaching breaks us out of the roadmap model where I have your roadmap to success. All you have to do is do these things. It's a one-size-fits-all, and everybody does it. We are all unique human beings with our own conditioning specific to us. I have four siblings. When we talk about stories growing up, everyone has the same story, but we all have unique ways. We discuss that story because we have our own conditioning. We're trying even the conditioning of a one-size-fits-all for everything, but it's not.
I'm also an ordained minister. I don't lead a church because I don't like politics after being in corporate for so long, but I'll deliver services. I never stand up and tell people who God is. What I do and what my message is is that I want to inspire you to find and develop that God of your understanding and develop a relationship with him. That works in your life and opens that doorway. Some people call it universal. Whatever that is, build that one-on-one relationship with that.
I don't want to tell you to take these action steps, and you'll get to success. Most people who follow that logic, less than 1% of those people following it, have achieved the level of success that it's promised or the person who put it together. It's helping people find their unique pathway to set up systems of accelerating habits that work for their uniqueness to bring about that growth they want to experience.
What you raised there, Joey, brings me to something that I didn't want to forget that we talked about, which is in the material I was looking at. You emphasized the idea of discovering your superpower. I wanted to hear you talk about that because it sounds related to what you were pointing to there. I talk about it, but I want to compare notes as to how we both use that term and concept.
When I talk about superpowers, the best way I can describe it is you see people do social media lives. You can tell they're not comfortable. They don't like what they're doing. They're not in that place where they're coming from being authentic. They're pushing themselves to do it. Have you seen videos like that?
Of course.
How long do you watch those?
I've been a member of that.
How long do you watch those people for?
It's not very engaging.
I almost feel bad for the person. You've seen people whose camera turns on their life and their homes. How long do you watch those for?
You eat up with a spoon.
You end up going for what they're offering. What's happening is one person is pushing themselves into doing some action because it supposedly will bring success. The other person is doing it mainly because they have such a passion for it, and it connects that way. When we're doing all these actions that we don't like doing or things like that that are pulling against us, how many people do you think that first person, that video, who doesn't like to do it? How many people do you think they're going to attract out of the doing their lives?
The first example is not too many.
Maybe they find some other networking way of doing things. They're around people who feel comfortable with the one-on-one engagement and the second person being in that place. What I do is align what you enjoy doing because that's what lights you up, turns all of us, turns on that attraction factor, and brings people to us going, “I want what you have.” That's what it is.
Do what you enjoy doing because that's what lights you up. That's what turns on that attractive factor.
Each of us has something unique. There could be multiple people who love doing social media and do it well, but overall, in our life, it's unique to us what those things are. We start honing in, finding out, and forgetting what everybody else says we have to do, but start zeroing in and bringing some laser focus into our vision. What feels good for us to do? What are those things that light us up? We find ways to do that more often. People will turn around their business quickly by doing those things.
It's in harmony with how I talk about superpowers, but mine may be from more of an intellectual component aspect of it. Whereas yours is heartfelt and comes in like, “Go where the energy is.” I'm going to take that inspiration and change the way I talk about it from now on. Thank you for that. I've always said, “We all have a unique set of gifts in the world.” You might not be the smartest, fastest, best looking, and most engaging, but you've got a combination of skills and attributes that is only you. No one has that specific.
I think of it like a key. You're an individual key. There's a lock that only you can unlock. That's how we find purpose. When I talk about superpowers, I'm saying, “What are the things on that key that are going to unlock that lock?” That's how I think about it. You had it way more simplified. Go where your heart is and where you feel energized. That's the way to get there.
That's what feels the best to do. I like that key and lock as far as explaining it because we are unique. You and I could do the same things. In some things, you're going to get way more lit up about doing than I am, and in other things, I may be. If you had a third person, it'd be something different altogether. We live in this culture that's conditioned us. You have to go out and get your answer.
This is where I differ from a lot of other coaching programs. If you have to come to me, I have your answers. The way I'm structured as an organization and a belief in how I've learned this stuff myself is to lay out the pathway for the individual on the journey to find their pathway. I never tell anybody what to do, how to do it, and what they're going to get.
All I know is that when I lay out that journey, and we get done working together, you're going to walk away and achieve a level of success beyond what would be possible otherwise. In doing so, you will have something that's replicable for you because it doesn't matter what adventure or endeavor you apply it to. You have your roadmap, and it's going to be unique to you. I'll work with a lot of clients. They'll achieve all the success. Their family, friends, and people they know are going, “Show me what he showed you.” They'll do it, but it won't work for the next person. The reason it won't work for that next person is because they're trying to follow their roadmap.
If you look at the whole chain of everything we talked about, it starts out with pain or discontent. There’s something we're discontent with, and we don't like. From there, you can go forward and develop a vision of what it is you truly want to desire in your life. I call that dynamic vision. I have road mapping tools for that. It's not a road mapping tool to tell people what their vision is. It's road mapping tools to help them define it.
One of the things we want in this quick and ready world is quick answers, quick solutions, moving forward, and all these unrealistic goals, but we want it all quick for some of this stuff. To take an organization from $7.5 million to $23 million in twelve calendar months is a huge leap. We have to work on defining our vision for ourselves. I laid out the road mapping tools to help do that.
Eye of Power: You have to do the work of defining your vision for yourself. I lay out the roadmap tools to help do that.
What we do is we start setting up and developing the systems of accelerating habits to do the things we align with, lights us up, and turns on that attraction factor. As we start doing those things, we start achieving more of those things coming up and identifying the subconscious conditioning that's working against us. We can shift that, get it into alignment, which is what I call total mindset alignment, and go through that process. As we're doing the whole thing, we're building our roadmap to understand what the individual unique pathway to success is.
There's more involved in that. As a quick run-through of the whole thing, that's the work I do and how I do it. Anybody could do this, go out there with themselves, and figure it out. I'll tell you the books I read and coaching programs I took that I walked away from and learned stuff from. I can tell you the coaching programs I've taken that I've walked away. My only thought was, “I do not ever want to be that coach.” I can tell you about the programs that I've taken, Tom, and that I've walked away from. I’m going, “There must be something to matter with me that only stunted my growth going forward into it.” The only way I know to do that is to take many years to get to the results of what my clients achieve in weeks.
It's a good, tight description of your organization's value equation. What would you suggest they do for those who want to read more? Where would you send them?
Anybody can look me up. I'm sure you have my name in the notes. Anybody can look me up on any social media or Google. It'll lead you to my website. Anybody who wants to talk about this stuff, Tom, I purposely set up my personal calendar as a quick reference for people to go to. You can go to CoachWithJoey.com. You can get a fifteen-minute time. I put it on my calendar. We'll get on the phone. We'll have a one-on-one chat, talk about it, and see. If you think this stuff is BS, that's fine. If there's something we've talked about or you feel stuck in something, I can help you move beyond that.
The purpose of my life and my life works is to inspire, motivate, and lead millions of people to live better lives. One of the exciting things that's happening much sooner than I thought is that we're getting ready to launch Life Ignited Institute, whose whole purpose is to certify other coaches who qualify in the SMT method. That will expand my life’s work beyond my lifetime.
The purpose of my life and my life’s work is to inspire, motivate, and lead millions of people to live better lives.
Talk about vision. That's awesome.
It's coming to people showing up, and things are happening with it outside of what I'm able to do from upstairs in my own logical mind. That's the other thing. When we start getting into alignment with those coincidences, it's amazing how much further we can go into our potential. I don't use potential a lot because it's been equated often with work effort. To hit your potential, you have to make an effort. I don't look so much at potential, but I look at our passion when moving into that passion quickly, with ease and enjoyment.
It's all energy. It's the direction and flow of energy. The passion means that the energy is flowing. It feels better. It's more powerful that way. Thank you so much for our discussion, Joe. I've had a great time getting to know you a little bit here. Your approach is in harmony with what we talk about in the Eye of Power. I imagine that people reading will like what you've been sharing with us. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Tom, I enjoyed having this conversation with you and the connection of the likenesses with us. I appreciate what you do. Anybody reading this, if you've gotten anything out of here, Tom is living through his heart by doing this and a servant's heart and the behind-the-scenes effort he puts out, I know firsthand because I'm a guest here and what you do to bring about people, to have that impact on your audience, and give them information to help them change. If you've gotten anything out of this, tell somebody about it or share this show with other people. None of us can get to that impact level we want to have with our lives alone. If you are reading this and this is something that resonates with you, you're one of those people to help spread this message to others.
Thank you so much, Joey. I enjoyed having you on the show. We're going to be talking again soon, and I can't wait. As a matter of reviewing the show for people, what we talked about, Joey laid out in response to my first question about what gets in the way of people. That's one of the things we want to focus on in the Eye of Power.
He hit two things strong. The open mindset is being open and being in that question. It's not about what we know. It's about what we can add to what we know. A slight focus like that and a little change can be super powerful. I thought that was a great nugget. The second thing was that notion about our idea of being unrealistic versus being realistic. Joey pointed out that we have unrealistic visions of what's possible, but we apply a realistic set of actions to that. Realistic actions are something that is perhaps limiting, and unrealistic actions are something that we put off.
Those two judgments are judgments of what we see as being possible. Connected with an open mindset and the ability to be creative in our vision is a powerful way to look at it. Joey attached the idea of our pain. I loved when he said, “Our pain can push us to be open-minded.” For those of you who are familiar with the Eye of Power, when I talk about pain, I think of it more as an ally. It has a bad connotation because it hurts, but without that, we end up in a lot of trouble.
I invite you to reach out to Joey. I will do so myself because what he brings to the table is valuable. The idea is to provide a roadmap and assistance to you on your journey because your journey is yours with the Eye of Power system. We're not telling you to follow this particular road. It's to keep these things in mind. Look at these parts of yourself, and do it with somebody else as you go down your road. In that respect, Joey and I are in complete agreement and harmony. We're of the same philosophical stripe there. I feel that it was providential that we were able to meet and talk with Joey Drolshagen. Thank you so much.
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About Joey Drolshagen
Featured in FOX, CBS, and NBC along with being named one of the top business Coaches in America for two consecutive years, in The NYC Journal and Disruptors Magazine, Joey is known for helping realtors and small business owners to unlock their pathway to success through creating accelerating systems of habits and total mindset alignment!
Aside from a very successful 28-year career, up to VP of Sales, Joey has spent over 3 decades studying, implementing, and developing what's now known as the SMT Method (Subconscious Mindset Training), which has repeatedly allowed hundreds of people to create the life they desire, through retraining their subconscious mind...
To become UNSTOPPABLE.